Sunday, May 16, 2010

Countdown to DVD Release - Favorite Quotes

Quote #37

"Well Mr. Hawkings, what makes you think I give a shit?"
~Neil Craig


Anonymous said...

This sort of breaks my heart because for all the hardened New York inside of Tyler, he's still just a hopeful kid.

He's probably looked up to cops because he found Michael. He was probably around lots of cops that day and all of them handled him with kid gloves the way they do with young victims.

This could be one of his first encounters that indicate that who you are, isn't what you do.

LOVE this scene.

LTavares2010 said...
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LTavares2010 said...

Tyler and Neil, their first encounter and confront. Tyler, angry, charges an attitude of Neil about an ocurrence and offended Craig reacts violently, arresting Tyler. These two men are similar: the fury, the aparent apathy towards life, the dedication to those they love, the temper. They lived a tragedy and deal with it the way they can. To me, they keep to themselves so many emotions that sometimes they can not stand and explode, and when I said earlier that both have an "apparent" apathy for life is because in my opinion is only "apparently", I feel a great passion for life in them but they are afraid to demonstrate, to fear and can not stand again. The fear that paralyzes.
What I love most in Rob and Chris is that they transmit so well, physically and psycologically, the fragility, the insecurity and all the other emotions of their characters. They are like the same man in different stages of his life. It is a difficult and challenging work for any actor and they managed to do it beautifully. Many points to Fetters, and specially for Coulter.
P.S. I love everything and everyone in this film and I love so much seeing Rob and Chris playing together. It is so human and full of energy.

jessegirl said...

Wow, LTavares, what a great comment!
I especially loved your analysis of the two men's 'apparent' apathy. Oh yes indeed, they both feel, and they feel so strongly that they have to cover it up somehow. To be more specific, they feel pain, hurt, loneliness, sorrow, those feelings men are not supposed to show--what Charles, on the other hand, covers up so well. So what feelings are left for them? Because feelings must go somewhere, you can be assured of that. Well, they go the route traditionally adopted by males; they are siphoned off by anger. The anger, in the cases of both Craig and Tyler that night, has missed its target, but how can one fight the horror of murder and suicide after the fact? How can they, as men, fix it? They can't and they know it and so they must rail against something or someone else. And get into trouble doing it.

We already talked about how Tyler, after his mistreatment of Ally, wanted Craig to beat him up. Here too, I think Tyler was, yes, a kid wanting to see a hero cop not one who didn't 'give a shit'. But he also wanted to be brought low. A normal guy would act like Aiden, all self-preservation, happy to have escaped the knife. But Tyler is deliberately provocative. He's hurting so much, has just heard Michael's name in the alley, feels guilty even though he has no reason to, and so his anger takes over. Later, in the jail, he is almost pleased about the mess he's gotten himself into. Maybe, consciously or not, he is pleased that he's now going to have to see his father, to have another little scene with him. Another chance for both of them. His means might be misguided, but one of Tyler's greatest achievements by the end of the film is his progress with his father.

The provocateur in Tyler is his persona for dealing with his guilt. He'll get another male to beat him up, make him pay. What's interesting is that not all of his feelings of guilt are earned. The heavy load he bears on account of his brother is so sad because it wasn't his fault, but he beats himself up constantly, and is so willing to take on that load. Hence, this scene.
On the other hand the guilt he suffers because of his mistreatment of Ally is earned and he knows it and Craig comes to his rescue again.

Craig, on the other hand, during this initial scene, is acting out as I explained earlier, whereas in the scene in Tyler's apt., he is also defending his daughter. He knows he's gone off the deep edge but he is always trying to make up for his wife's death. He thinks he failed her, failed to protect her. And Tyler, and every other miscreant he comes into contact with in his police work, bears the consequences of that failure.

LTavares2010 said...
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LTavares2010 said...


Thank you for your generosity. I love Aidan, Ally, Caroline but Tyler and Neil are my favourite ones. Rob and Chris are great together. Their characters are so introspective but they have this physical thing they use to express their feelings. In a moment, they can be so sweet and the in the other moment they become agressive. A thing that I noticed is that in Tyler`s family they do not discuss openly about what happened in the past. I think it is bad for Tyler, he needs to unburden, gets rid of some demons. That is why Tyler loves to stay with Caroline and Ally, with them he lives in peace, he feels free to talk, with Aidan he enjoys his easy way of facing life. Neil and Ally have a different family dynamics, he feels responsible to take care of his daughter, but actually Ally is the one who takes care of him.

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