I love this whole scene. First, it's sexy as hell. Second, it remindes me of the pure fun my husband and I had in the very, very beginning of our relationship and Third, it gives some unique insight to who Charles and Diane are with the middle name. I love it.
Thanks for the happy/non-angsty quote. It made me smile, along with the pic.
Yes, it's pure fun, like the cafeteria scene. We do need the lighter scenes. I love how Tyler seemed to have to think a good while before he decided that he will be carrying Ally to the shower after the spaghetti scene. It took him ages, he just stood there staring at her with the spaghetti poking out of his shirt, and he didn't even look angry, just completely stunned. And then.. action! It was also a great idea to have Ally pick up his wallet and read his ID while he was carrying her to the bathroom. It's a bit like a nice, happier reminder of the alley fight scene when Ally's father also reads Tyler's ID (and omits the Keats middle name). Obviously, Ally thinks Keats as a middle name is something posh and pretentious and her saying it aloud also serves to underline her social difference with Tyler. However, even in this joyful scene, there is an ominous foreshadowing clue again, although you can only see it when the film is over: When he was still a very young man, Keats lost his beloved brother Tom who died of tuberculosis and he himself died tragically young, when he was only 26, of the same illness. I hardly think it's a coincidence. Nothing ever seems to be in this film. But that doesn't keep me from enjoying the pure fun of this scene and the joy of being young, of playing the seduction game and of starting to be attracted to each other! After all, RM is essentially about love and life.
I, too, loved that touch, the wallet thing. We can count on you, Rum, to notice the parallel to when Ally’s father opened Tyler’s wallet. Well done. I think that is significant. Craig chose to call him ‘Mr. Hawkins’, with some contempt in his tone; Ally chose to home in on the pretentious part, with mock contempt. She’s playing but her Dad is so serious. I adore all the parallels. Do you all think Diane or Charles suggested the middle name? Oh, Rum, that sad foreshadowing again. Tyler’s name being that of a poet who died young. But during this scene it was all fun. Then, when Tyler surrenders, he’s got that sodden cigarette dangling from his mouth, a fatuous grin on his face, so sweet and beautiful, then struggles out of the tub on Rob’s—those are pure Rob—wonky legs. Adorable. (Okay, I had to say that.) I bet Ally just loved that fun. And I, too, loved when, before he picks her up, he just stands there with the spaghetti dangling from his shirt pocket, stunned. Everything, ciggie and noodles, just drips and dangles from him and he goes with the flow (actually, they both do). And it was all a set up so that Ally can see his tattoo before their relationship goes further.
I love this scene from beginning to end....and I love the myriad of emotions that flitter across Rob's face. The first is the playful look when he squirts her, the nervousness when she lays into him..or so he thinks...the shock when he wears the leftovers and finally, the satisfied look as he plots his revenge....
It completes our first glimpse at what she brings out in him...in addition to the giant freaking panda. We see him happy...playful...relaxed and enjoying her company. He lets his guard down...after riding the waves of highs and lows when she sees his brothers pictures and then he goes on to tell her that he comes from a long line of falconers.
It is an interesting parallel with the scene with Neil....and we then can contrast the pretentious middle name with the mold ridden shower. Did any one else cringe at that shower?
"A thing of beauty is a joy for ever: Its loveliness increases; it will never Pass into nothingness; but still will keep A bower quiet for us, and a sleep Full of sweet dreams, and health, and quiet breathing.(...)"
(Excerpt of the poem "A Thing of Beauty" by John Keats)
I love this sequence so much. It is funny, romantic, sexy, exciting, sad for a moment, passionate, full of life, lightness, beauty, peace and joy. John Keats was a great romantic poet and Tyler is a romantic hero. He is fragile, needy, sensitive, insecure, confused, loving, protective and capable of passionate acts.
@Rum Thank you. You are very kind. You are right: nothing in this film is coincidence. John Keats is a great inspiration for the character of Tyler. Big hugs to you too.
@Jesse "Do you all think Diane or Charles suggested the middle name?" I really don`t know, maybe Charles with his good taste for art or Diane. Probably they were so different when they were both young and in love. They just have forgotten the way they were. Big hugs to you.
Yes, LTavares, when poetry is needed, we can always count on you. My own son was named after a poet as well, so I understand the impulse. Yes, I bet Charles and Diane were beautiful together in their youth. And raising those amazing kids.
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Cast and Crew
Robert Pattinson..Tyler Hawkins
Emilie de Ravin....Ally Craig
Tate Ellington......Aidan Hall
Ruby Jerins......Caroline Hawkins
Pierce Brosnan.....Charles Hawkins
Chris Cooper........Sergeant Neil Craig
Lena Olin............Diane Hirsch
Gregory Jbara.......Les Hirsch
Kate Burton...........Janine
Martha Plimpton....Helen Craig
Caitlin Rund.........Young Ally
Christopher Clawson...Michael Hawkins
Peyton List.........Samantha
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I love this whole scene. First, it's sexy as hell. Second, it remindes me of the pure fun my husband and I had in the very, very beginning of our relationship and Third, it gives some unique insight to who Charles and Diane are with the middle name.
I love it.
Thanks for the happy/non-angsty quote. It made me smile, along with the pic.
Yes, it's pure fun, like the cafeteria scene. We do need the lighter scenes. I love how Tyler seemed to have to think a good while before he decided that he will be carrying Ally to the shower after the spaghetti scene. It took him ages, he just stood there staring at her with the spaghetti poking out of his shirt, and he didn't even look angry, just completely stunned. And then.. action! It was also a great idea to have Ally pick up his wallet and read his ID while he was carrying her to the bathroom. It's a bit like a nice, happier reminder of the alley fight scene when Ally's father also reads Tyler's ID (and omits the Keats middle name).
Obviously, Ally thinks Keats as a middle name is something posh and pretentious and her saying it aloud also serves to underline her social difference with Tyler.
However, even in this joyful scene, there is an ominous foreshadowing clue again, although you can only see it when the film is over: When he was still a very young man, Keats lost his beloved brother Tom who died of tuberculosis and he himself died tragically young, when he was only 26, of the same illness. I hardly think it's a coincidence. Nothing ever seems to be in this film.
But that doesn't keep me from enjoying the pure fun of this scene and the joy of being young, of playing the seduction game and of starting to be attracted to each other! After all, RM is essentially about love and life.
I, too, loved that touch, the wallet thing. We can count on you, Rum, to notice the parallel to when Ally’s father opened Tyler’s wallet. Well done. I think that is significant. Craig chose to call him ‘Mr. Hawkins’, with some contempt in his tone; Ally chose to home in on the pretentious part, with mock contempt. She’s playing but her Dad is so serious. I adore all the parallels.
Do you all think Diane or Charles suggested the middle name?
Oh, Rum, that sad foreshadowing again. Tyler’s name being that of a poet who died young.
But during this scene it was all fun. Then, when Tyler surrenders, he’s got that sodden cigarette dangling from his mouth, a fatuous grin on his face, so sweet and beautiful, then struggles out of the tub on Rob’s—those are pure Rob—wonky legs. Adorable. (Okay, I had to say that.) I bet Ally just loved that fun. And I, too, loved when, before he picks her up, he just stands there with the spaghetti dangling from his shirt pocket, stunned. Everything, ciggie and noodles, just drips and dangles from him and he goes with the flow (actually, they both do). And it was all a set up so that Ally can see his tattoo before their relationship goes further.
I love this scene from beginning to end....and I love the myriad of emotions that flitter across Rob's face. The first is the playful look when he squirts her, the nervousness when she lays into him..or so he thinks...the shock when he wears the leftovers and finally, the satisfied look as he plots his revenge....
It completes our first glimpse at what she brings out in him...in addition to the giant freaking panda. We see him happy...playful...relaxed and enjoying her company. He lets his guard down...after riding the waves of highs and lows when she sees his brothers pictures and then he goes on to tell her that he comes from a long line of falconers.
It is an interesting parallel with the scene with Neil....and we then can contrast the pretentious middle name with the mold ridden shower. Did any one else cringe at that shower?
"A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases; it will never
Pass into nothingness; but still will keep
A bower quiet for us, and a sleep
Full of sweet dreams, and health, and quiet breathing.(...)"
(Excerpt of the poem "A Thing of Beauty" by John Keats)
I love this sequence so much. It is funny, romantic, sexy, exciting, sad for a moment, passionate, full of life, lightness, beauty, peace and joy.
John Keats was a great romantic poet and Tyler is a romantic hero. He is fragile, needy, sensitive, insecure, confused, loving, protective and capable of passionate acts.
Ltavares thanks for the Keats poem! I was hoping for you to quote it! :)) Big hugs.
@Rum
Thank you. You are very kind. You are right: nothing in this film is coincidence. John Keats is a great inspiration for the character of Tyler. Big hugs to you too.
@Jesse
"Do you all think Diane or Charles suggested the middle name?"
I really don`t know, maybe Charles with his good taste for art or Diane. Probably they were so different when they were both young and in love. They just have forgotten the way they were.
Big hugs to you.
Yes, LTavares, when poetry is needed, we can always count on you.
My own son was named after a poet as well, so I understand the impulse.
Yes, I bet Charles and Diane were beautiful together in their youth. And raising those amazing kids.
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